On Meet the Press this morning, the roundtable that included Mary Matalin, David Gregory, Maureen Dowd, and Paul Gigot, discussed the importance, or lack of importance, of the Cheney hunting incident. David Gregory, the White House Press correspondent, apologized for the on and off camera fit he threw with Scott McCllelan, noting his wife made him do it. Matalin duked it out with both Gregory and Dowd at several points because the former noted the bias the press has towards this administration. Dowd kept trying to excuse that because they are so secretive, and David hid behind the “it’s my job” argument. Matalin, who finally got fed up with Gregory and the press hiding their bias, said that “you [the press] went on a jihad”. Thank you, somebody had to say it, and I am glad it was Mary Matalin.
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5:13 pm [ Quote ]
Mary Matalin just showed why we [Republicans] win nearly every debate.
Maureen Dowd and David Gregory had no chance. Dowd keep trying to make Cheney seem like a robot that sits behind his desk drinking the blood of babies and Gregory got his hypocrisy shoved down his throat. I started laughing when Matilin pointed out that if Gregory was called and was the first to be given the shooting story, he wouldn’t say “No, lets’ go through the process, lets’ call the press pool let’s get everyone involved.”
5:41 pm [ Quote ]
Gregory: “I just find it all a bit odd…[the way it all went down]”. Matalin: “Well that’s because you live in a parallel universe…” That was the funniest slap down I have heard in a long, long time. She was whipping them to the floor. Beautiful.
7:26 pm [ Quote ]
Cry me a river
7:36 pm [ Quote ]
“You guys are nothing more than clones of the Bush cult.”
Gotta love the liberal insanity. If that’s not a coherent argument, then I don’t know what is.
The fact of the matter is the press is fuming they did not get the story first, and this is just another opportunity to get this administration.
As much as I was frustrated with them at the beginning, I really don’t care now. The press just keeps showing their bias and how out of touch they are…and America can see it; look at the latest polls concerning the accident…harldy anyone thinks it is a story, yet the press is yelling “fire” where there is none. Just let them keep showing their true colors.
7:43 pm [ Quote ]
One too many .wmv’s in the video link, Ian. Oh Man, she tore Gregory/Dowd a new one. My favorite was about hillary’s speech, “putting aside the delicious hypocrisy [of her statement about openness in the white house].”
What’s up with Maureen Dowd’s grin/frown? She was spooky.
8:01 pm [ Quote ]
druidbros, it seems that you derive pleasure from being offended. I guess we all have to watch our usage of the word ‘jihad’ now. OK…what about ‘crusade’? Oh yeah, there was that historical event…
8:57 pm [ Quote ]
MSM plans another week of Cheney shooting coverage…
As if we hadn’t seen enough already, the latest manufactured-on-the-part-of-the-MSM ’scandal’ will be given at least another week of scrutiny and coverage. Via Drudge:
This just in… Both TIME and NEWSWEEK are planning high im…
9:55 pm [ Quote ]
For a average to less than average intellect how did Gregory get so arrrogant? Probably from hanging out with Maher and Biden.
Is there a bigger snob on earth than Dowd?
Matlin smacked em around like a tether ball!
Keep up the good work MSM. You are the Democrats biggest liability, excluding other Democrats of course
10:13 pm [ Quote ]
Dowd and Gregory are so smarmy. What elitest snobs. They represent everything I despise about the media. Thank goodness for blogs like this that try to keep them honest. Mary Matalin was more than a match for those two air-heads (but Mary has got to lose that
pin-wheel she’s wearing).
10:32 pm [ Quote ]
Don’t Mess With Mary…
Mary, disgusted, takes a deep breath before eviscerating David Gregory and Maureen Dowd.
Classic.
Ian at Expose The Left has the …...
11:24 pm [ Quote ]
Dowd keep trying to make Cheney seem like a robot that sits behind his desk drinking the blood of babies
Funny that it was Dowd that appears to be a robot that sits behind a desk drinking something.
The funniest part, I think Gregory towards then end there, much to his chagrin, realizes Mary won and she’s right…no matter how mad the press is or unfair they think they’re treated…the story was hugely overblown and the press yet again looks dumb.
And really, it must really suck to be Maureen Dowd.
12:37 am [ Quote ]
Thanks for all of your great clips. My cable is locked for all MSM so you are my only hope. I get too upset watching idiots like Gregory.
Did anyone notice that in one breath Gregory claims he is trying to report the news in a fair manner – 1/2 breath later he says ..”who is really running the rodeo at the the white house?” RODEO???
Did anyone notice that Dowd siad that she has been on many Republican hunting trips?? OH Maureen, Dems are not allowed to hunt? At least not in public!
Reminds me of Bernard Goldbergs theory on bias in the media. Goldberg excuses the behavior as unintentional explaining that it is so inbred and institutional that “journaliists” like Gregory do not begin to see it. That Gregory thinks that he is a fair reporter is enough said for his integrity.
1:12 am [ Quote ]
The People Around Dick Cheney…
I turned on the television this morning and was hit smack in the face with a stark, brutal, crystal clear image of war.
My 10 year old visiting niece…...
1:32 am [ Quote ]
Mary Matalin is perhaps the biggest asswipe in America today, after Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
2:59 am [ Quote ]
Mary Matlin reminds me a lot of Ms. Elizabeth Drew, a past and cherished Alum of WTOP’s old “Agronsky & Company”.
I loved to watch Ms. Drew, composed and polite. A complete Class Act in the extreme, who never had to raise her voice; smile politely as she twisted her knife in her opponent’s ribs.
I had to laugh while MoDo and the Breck Boy never knew that Mary has wiped the floor with them!
Another superb clip, Ian!
Jack.
6:23 am [ Quote ]
FREAKY FRIDAY!!
David Gregory is a 14 year old trapped in a 40 year olds body.
9:10 am [ Quote ]
I am very annoyed with ALL OF THEM! Democrats and Republicans. Why is it that they do not have to report accidents like the rest of us normal folk must. It really irritates me that we continue to see these huge time lags of 18 hours and 24 hours and etc through recent history (at least in my lifetime).. and do you think that a regular citizen would have been able to tell a sheriff or deputy to just go away? Never! They ALL think they are above the law. I am not pleased about how any of them act in times of crisis of ANY scale. I really don’t care to hear a political ADVISER since she has a slanted point of view and the actions of the reporters are galling at best. Nobody seems to behave correctly, no one is apologetic for anything and worse yet, NO ONE is responsible for anything.
11:09 am [ Quote ]
The Democrats should be so brainwashed…
...they might actually be organized enough to win elections!!
/ba-dum-bum
11:32 am [ Quote ]
Right vs Left
The big difference that is apparent is the maturity level of the participants.
Maureen is a whiner, cannot say it nicer than that. She is very well compensated (as many of her counterparts) and her rights, etc are not violated by the evil Bush administration. You would think she would smile once in a while and not have that smarmy attitude.
David Gregory is just saving face best he can. With 24 hour news cycles you have to milk any story for all it’s worth.
Mary Matlin and the other guest at least seemed to present logical, well-thought out arguements. She is married to the other side so between them they certainly have a nice business going.
Keep in mind, this political pundentry is much like professional wrestling. On camera they battle each other but off they both know how and where their paycheck comes from.
11:39 am [ Quote ]
Actually DruidBros – lets take your “Cult” accusation step-by-step shall we?
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1.) The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
When recently asked “Who was the leader of the Democratic Party” Harry Reid replied that that was an unfair question. Dems definitely not a cult by this standard. They don’t even HAVE a leader.
2.) Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
Again Dems are no cult here – in fact I’m not sure you even qualify as a Democrat these days unless you doubt America.
3.) Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
The new media is definitely making big inroads. Conservative Talk Radio dominates, and Fox regularly smashes CNN in the ratings – I guess that does mean the Dems don’t have a monopoly in the News Media anymore. Nope – Dems not a cult by this standard either then.
4.) The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
Leadership? What leadership? I thought you Dems didn’t have leadership. Was Reid lying?
5.) The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
Nope – Dems sure aren’t elitist. Bill Clinton should have been able to do a LOT better than Monica Lewinsky.
6.) The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
True – Dems are much more diverse than just “Us versus Them”. They also have “Black versus White”, “Rich versus Poor”, “Environmentalists versus the Economy”, “Gays versus Straights”... can’t pigeon-hole the Dems here that’s for sure.
7.) The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
Again – leader? What leader? Heeeeeere leader leader leader leader
8.) The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
I can’t say that any of the Democrats ends are “Exalted” by any means. I guess that means they wouldn’t fall into this category either.
9.) The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
I come in peace. TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER!
10.) Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
ZZzzzzzz…..
11.) The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
Actually, I’m not sure there isn’t a single segment of society that the Dems haven’t villified – so no, they don’t seem preoccupied in this area.
12.) The group is preoccupied with making money.
If Howard Deans fund raising numbers are anything to go by – this certainly doesn’t apply.
13.) Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
Come to think of it those protest marches aren’t really drawing the same amount of crowds they did in the 60’s are they?
14.) Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
Hey now – San Fransisco can only hold so many people!
15.) The most loyal members (the “true believers?) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
I don’t think most rational, sane, and thinking people there is much life inside the Democratic Party.
So nope.
Dems are definitely NOT a cult.
12:54 pm [ Quote ]
I watched the whole show and there was Mary Matalin working the Cheney approach to media while the four other people tried not to laugh in her face.
This whole spin them silly tactic just doesn’t cut it anymore. But I can see why Mr Cheney would hire someone like Ms Matalin. He’d like her style. It just that it doesn’t work anymore. Stonewalling, lying and blaming the victim is not seen as being strong. It’s seen as being cowardly.
Cheney has become the laughing stock and it’s time for him to go. With a 27% approval rating the office of VP is being wasted on a liability. The VP should be someone who could actually beat Hillary.
1:13 pm [ Quote ]
What you fail to realize is that the position of Vice President has seldom, if ever, been relevant. Theodore Roosevelt was actually offered the Vice President’s spot because others in the party wanted him somewhere that he wouldn’t make so much noise. Then McKinley goes and ruins the whole thing by getting himself shot and Teddy becomes the President, and not a bad one at that. The point is, he was placed there with the intent of marginalizing him. So it’s kind of tough to “waste” the VP slot when there’s not really much you could do to even validate it.
1:42 pm [ Quote ]
I don’t think there has ever been, certainly not in my lifetime, a VP as powerful and “valid” as Cheney.
He is central to this admin’s policy.
The problem with what I’ll call the Matalin approach, is that it has worked, but they still keep using it because (I’d guess) it suits Cheney’s character.
For example, the first tactic was to blame poor Whittington,
Katharine Armstrong:
“Whittington “came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn’t signal them or indicate to them or announce himself …
Then Scotty McClellan builds on the talking point, naturally…
“I don’t know all the specifics about it, but I think Mrs. Armstrong spoke publicly about how this incident occurred. And if I recall, she pointed out that the protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington, when it came to notifying the others that he was there. And so, you know, unfortunately these types of hunting accidents happen from time to time.”
Then Matalin chimes in:
“The vice president was concerned. He felt badly, obviously. On the other hand, he was not careless or incautious or violate any of the [rules]. He didn’t do anything he wasn’t supposed to do.”
When this didn’t work, Matalin comes on Meet The Press and tries the same spin, but this time blaming the press for not swallowing their spin, hook line and sinker, as they were expected to.
The thing is that this play doesn’t work anymore. But it’s the only one Matalin (and Cheney) know, and like.
1:43 pm [ Quote ]
Sorry that should be “It has not worked but they still keep using it”
1:46 pm [ Quote ]
Josh Marshall said it best…
About physical courage I don’t know the answer. But all available evidence suggests that the Mr. Cheney is a man of deep moral cowardice. Makes a mistake and shoots his friend; blames the friend. Only he won’t do it directly. So he gets underlings to do it for him. Forced to speak out publicly, he appears before a ringer-journalist guaranteed not to press uncomfortable questions.
1:51 pm [ Quote ]
Mary Matalin: 10
Liberal Medai Zombies: 0
1:59 pm [ Quote ]
venmax,marko
Keep spinning girls, shout your conclusions, lacking evidence, keep shouting your angry rhetoric, shout it far and wide.
Keep up the good work!
The Democrats have points to be made, fortuantely for the Republicans, Democratic anger has consumed them and they cannot resist spewing hateful rhetoric.
This fact alone will keep them from winning elections for the forseeable future. The more this is pointed out to them the angrier they get. God save the Democrats, only he could. Consumed in hatred is no way to live a life girls.
2:11 pm [ Quote ]
Ah, yes. Cheney is in charge, because you liberals say so.
Thanks for confirming everything Mary Matalin said about the parallel universe you live in, where facts don’t matter—only feelings!
2:21 pm [ Quote ]
While Maureen has raised her media presence of the past year or so, and even more since the publication of her book, Sunday’s MTP is the first time I can remember her being on at the same time as another guest who actually rebutted her statements, as opposed to simply being part of Tim Russert’s cordial journalists roundtable, or as a guest taking softball questions on Letterman or Larry King.
If death rays could have come out of Maureen’s eyes following Matlin’s replies, David Gregory would have been sitting next to a smouldering pile of burning flesh and bones on the roundtable. This seems to be a standard problem for the most partisan of the New York Times columnists when they get out of the cocoon of the op-ed page’s self-congratualtory club. While the more reasonable Tom Friedman can hold his own against more conservative commentators, Dowd and Paul Kurgman—who appeared to be expecting Bill O’Reilly to attack him with a chainsaw when they were on Russert’s CNBC show together last year—don’t seem to be able to cope very well with going face to face with critics of their statements.
3:15 pm [ Quote ]
VenMax
ssshhhhh. Don’t distract them. Misplaced energy is a good thing. Let them tell voters they are nothing more than sheepish cult members…hint even more election losses.
Meanwhile, savor the irony in a cult connoisseurs coining a phrase that his obedient soldiers seize on to mindlessly repeat as gospel. As Mary says…Delicious
3:36 pm [ Quote ]
Cheney…. 27% approval rating.
3:43 pm [ Quote ]
Can anyone (getting back to topic) defend Cheney’s
1) Drinking (Two DWIs, Wasn’t he was thrown out of college for it?) before hunting?
2) The shooting?
3) The handling of the shooting?
Or are you going to continue to fallback on the Cheney/Matalin defense… It all THEIR fault, (the victim, the media, the Liberals) not ours. We didn’t do ANYTHING wrong.
Is your defense really that Cheney acted perfectly and it’s the fault of the 73% for not being able to see it?
Good luck, but it hasn’t worked so far.
6:31 pm [ Quote ]
Marko: (1) Pay attention – Cheney admitted full and absolute responsibility for the shooting! No one is excusing him!
(2) In any situation there is more than one facet, in this case the victim being out of place, which did not cause the shooting or absolve Cheney, but contributed to the “Accident!”
(3) The MSM went ballistic! Shuster, Gregory and others tried to insert themselves into the story, were hysterical little cry babies because they didn’t get the story first, and were apoplectic because FOX got the Cheney interview.
So, take a midol and relax pal, no one is excusing Cheney for the shooting or blaming anyone else, simply reporting the other stories that were part of the aftermath of the shooting story!
7:07 pm [ Quote ]
[...] I forgot how much I liked Mary Matalin. Watch this video, courtsey of Expose the Left, of Mary holding her own quite well against Maureen “DoDo” Dowd and David “Hissy Fit” Gregory on Meet the Press, about the Cheney shooting non-story. On several occasions I expected the camera to cut back to Matalin with MoDo’s entrails hanging from her mouth. She was well over the DoDo and her whinny, lisping attitude. [...]
8:08 pm [ Quote ]
The shooting was reported to the proper authorities within 5 minutes. If Cheney had then called the MSM right away, they would accuse him of bypassing the authorities to put spin on the report. This is a relationship[ that deserves to be run by the numbers until the press grows up. I would suggest questions in writing and answers in writing. Screw the circus.
8:13 pm [ Quote ]
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10:00 pm [ Quote ]
I heard a good point today. Why did it take these guys at NBC over 5 weeks to release the interview of the woman accusing Clinton of sexual assault? Talk about not reporting the news in a timely manner. She had to go to another media to get her story out, and then they finally released. These guys have no room to criticize.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/25/broaddrick/
Notice the date of the interview, and then the date of the release. True accusations or not, these guys sat on it for over a month.
NBC’s decision to broadcast the Jan. 20 interview after a month ….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm
10:01 pm [ Quote ]
come home 5 minutes late, and they’ll treat you as if you stumbled in…
You forget to mention the shotgun to the face part.
11:22 pm [ Quote ]
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE MARKO
I love people who live and die by POLLS
This one’s for you sweetheart!
Twenty-seven percent (27%) of Americans believe that the recent hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President. Twice as many, 57%, say it was “just one of those very embarrassing things that happens to all of us
put another way
Cheny Hunting Accident
Serious Questions27%
Embarrassing57%
11:27 pm [ Quote ]
Why did it take these guys at NBC over 5 weeks to release the interview of the woman accusing Clinton of sexual assault?
OR WHY Did Newsweek spike the Monica Story?? Although I am happy they did because to the media’s disappointment it put Drudge on the map, but just those things that make you go hmmm.
Kinda a funny, they screwed themselves with their Clinton covering and made Drudge KING of the message!
7:55 am [ Quote ]
I am so glad you brought up Monica. When are Republicans going to stop talking about that? I am not saying she didn’t get shot in the face but she didn’t end up in the hospital. Why didn’t Cheney notice Harry Whittington shoot a shotgun a couple feet away from him and then go retrieve the bird? I think I would notice if someone fired a gun a few feet away from me. I would notice a six-foot tall man wearing a bright orange vest. I would not drink before going hunting even one beer. I would go to the hospital as soon as I could. I would not let my spokespeople blame the victim. That’s just me. I guess it’s true what they say about this administration, “Shoot first, ask questions later.”
8:28 am [ Quote ]
I think the whole press briefing thing was really weird, but understandable if you watch the whole thing (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060214-1.html#) you can see it escalate. I think Greggory did get angry, but you have to admit Scott McClellan had to have been the best fat kid to ever play dodgeball. He just can’t answer a question. It’s his gift. Watch the whole briefing I like the canadian question.
Q There are Canadian news reports that the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal has contended that one of the sexual orientations is sadomasochism, while in Ottawa, the Justice Department has called for the legalizing of polygamy. And my question: Does the President recognize these developments as logical progression from the current demand for same-sex marriage by the sodomy lobby?
MR. McCLELLAN: Are you talking about Canada? (Laughter.)
Q Canada, yes.
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, direct your questions to Canada.
I just love that republicans believe there’s a “sodomy lobby”?
9:04 am [ Quote ]
All the feedback are excellent but I live in a Zero Tolerance and price of non-conformance world where if I were ‘accidently’ doing this or ‘oops’ not confirming my information or submitting not allowed expenses would have to take responsibility and likely would be in a heap of trouble, so am having a hard time with all the Dems and Repubs running around not taking care of business, and wasting our money on their own little self interests.
This diversion.. ah..I mean issue… is getting so much play whereas important issues, the war, the eavesdropping, the numerous scandals.. all getting bubkus.
Above the law, got the media machine at their disposal, BOTH of them. I really liked EdA’s line ‘Keep in mind, this political pundentry is much like professional wrestling. On camera they battle each other but off they both know how and where their paycheck comes from.’ How accurate, they are probably having dinner and drinks laughing all the way to the bank!
3:56 pm [ Quote ]
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