February 9, 2006
Rep. Barney Frank (D – MA) appeared on MSNBC’s Hardball with Chris Matthews this afternoon to discuss his remark that the Bush administration committed “ethnic cleansing by inaction” to Hurricane Katrina. Frank stands by the remark he made on Wednesday at a Katrina hearing in Congress without any word from the main stream media. Could you imagine the reaction if this was the Clinton administration and a Republican said something as racist as he did? Just imagine.
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10:54 pm [ Quote ]
Hey, I’m glad you buy my argument that looking at the vast “MSM” coverage on Google News proves that you were totally wrong about the supposed lack of coverage about the decrease in the unemployment rate.
Now to show you how you are misusing the argument that I disproved you with the other day, I’d like you to find another news article that covers someone’s (anyone who you agree with) appearance on a talk show (any show).
They aren’t out there? You know why? Because media don’t write news stories about people’s appearances on other media.
Good lord, debunking the twisted logic you use on this site is so easy it is almost comical.
11:46 pm [ Quote ]
ah. Google News=Main Stream Media. got it.
please. the big story yesterday wasn’t the unemployment figures, it was the shake-up at GM. now, much as you wish that you were right about the coverage, there’s a difference between the lead story, page 7-J, and not reported at all.
for your bookmarking pleasure: Barney Frank racist
11:55 pm [ Quote ]
Did I say yesterday and the employment figures? Please. This is from a point from a week ago where I handed Ian a plate full of his own @ss with all the trimmings. Just like a conservative…getting involved in an argument when you have no clue what you are talking about. Kind of like Ian and the Black Panthers.
12:04 am [ Quote ]
Actually, i followed this debate on this site silently. At the time that it was mentioned. Every main stream news source online mentioned it. Then it also got mentioned on local news here. Some Examples included, NY TImes. Washington Post, and ABC News. By now they would be yesterdays news so it would not be main articles at this time.
1:23 am [ Quote ]
Did I say yesterday and the employment figures?
I’ll try this again, slower, more explanation.
last week or so, when you “handed Ian a plate full of his own @ss with all the trimmings,” you pointed out that though he said there was no coverage of the unemployment rate, there were 11,400 Google News links. not surprising that there were that many, as the unemployment rate is one of the chief economic indicators. since this was good news the story quickly died.
yesterday, the hubbub was GM (30,200). tomorrow it will be something else. the unemployment numbers aren’t even on the radar anymore, just like Ian said. HAD THEY BEEN HORRIBLE, we’d been on day 3 of continuing coverage.
about the “the lead story, page 7-J, and not reported at all,” I didn’t make it clear that I was just echoing what Ian was saying, again. using YOUR SOURCE: Barney Frank racist
not a lot of play, huh? just like Ian said.
6:42 am [ Quote ]
MacStansbury
first your making the assumption that it’s all that great in the first place. it’s a very slight decrease. and if you read beyond the headlines that it got far more attention than the less favorable stuff about the ecomony in the same articles, ie inefficient numbers of new jobs for the people just introduced to the job market that don’t count in unemployment (graduates).
Also, recently was announced that jobless claims rose. this got less attention than the 4.7 percent unemployement rate.
If your attempt to say that the main stream media purposely puts republicans in an unfavorable light and doesn’t report the good, you would be wrong. if anything there are more main stream sources that attempt to suppress bad news about administration than glorify it. the administration is jut messing up so bad that it’s hard to not point out some overt flaws.
9:30 am [ Quote ]
Barney Frank Accuses President Of Racial Cleansing…
Did you know that Barney Frank accused President Bush of “racial cleansing by inaction” on Wednesday? Maybe you did, but I didn’t. But either way, we sure aren’t getting much help from the mainstream media on this stuff. Frank made…...
1:11 pm [ Quote ]
john x: uh…ya got a 5 to 1 advantage, and STILL can’t get the news about how crappy the burger-flippers got it? might be because the burger-flippers want to be burger-flippers. those who want to achieve more have as much opportunity now as they’ve always had, and now most people have the kind of work they actually have the skills, training, and ability, and desire to get.
1:12 pm [ Quote ]
Barney Frank: Idiot Savant of the Week…
It was a close contest this week, with all the liberal political bloviating at the King funeral, but Barney Frank edged out the rest of the pack and took this week’s Idiot Savant Award by claiming that Bush has…...
2:40 pm [ Quote ]
macstansbury
nah you forget to mention that the increase in “burger flipping” jobs are replacing the manufacturing jobs. which have all but left the US. so the same opportunities are not there. there has been a major shift in economy and thus opportunities. you can work at walmart now when before you might be able to work at bellsouth. i believe that the original arguement was to implicate that main stream media doesn’t reflect positive progress of Bush administration when that just isn’t so. i almost never see a dead body on tv about the iraq war. however, i always see those purple ink fingers about elections. i have to view independent films to see the real casualties or rights lost to iraq citizens and only PBS has shows that constantly do updates to US soldier casualties. the media is very favorable to Bush administration. Look how long it takes to release unfavorable news, ie Memo Gate, NSA unwarrated wiretapping, ect. Remember that Bush administration oppossed laws against monopolies and there is a media buying war going on. so they would be stupid to not do their part to keep Bush as clean as possible so that they can get what they want. more control of media.
7:45 pm [ Quote ]
“i almost never see a dead body on tv about the iraq war.”
Good point John. No one would know that war is bad if we didn’t see a lot of footage of dead people.
8:15 pm [ Quote ]
John X
A poor 4.7 unemployment rate is not much to brag about? Unless it was achieved with all the cards stacked against your favor. Even with natural disasters, wars, terrorists attacks, the market plummeting out of fear of more terror attacks, etc, the current Administration managed to grow our economy and rake in more tax revenue with less taxes than the previous leaders (yes, including Clinton). But the spending!, that is a whole other story.
And if you want industries to stay here in America, then stop taxing the hell out of them just because they are successful. Stop penalizing success. If we give them tax incentives/breaks, or just stop penalizing success, to offset the cheap labor excuse they always like to use to relocate their factories elsewhere, maybe industry will come back and not leave. But you also have to fix American’s “entitlement? attitude and their overwhelming poor work ethic. Lets face it. There are billions of people willing to work for less because they appreciate having a good job, and work harder to keep it. We Americans expect too much and as a result seek entitlements instead of rewards and benefits.
And your assertion that Bush controls the media is so wrong. If Bush controlled the media, then why in the heck did we have the Plame and Wire Tapping debacles? Why is there constantly “….and X# more people died today in Baghdad…?, along with more news show agreeing or even promoting unprovable, disproven, debunked, and even accusations so outrageous you have to feel sorry for the people who believe it instead of being mad at them? The amount of successes in Iraq are easily drowned out by the constant inflow of bad news. I would put the ratio of bad to good news to over 10:1. There is so much “good? happening that goes unreported, the overlooked or omission of this stuff is sickening, and even looks biased or agenda driven.
This Barky Frank guy is a prime example of outrageous claims that makes you feel sorry for those who believe it.
John X- give me proof that Bush opposed laws against monopolies. The last time someone made a claim about a bad Bush Policy was regarding the Patriot Act and the provision of granting the secret police the right to make unwarranted arrests for “crimes witnessed in their presence..? The word “unwarranted? clouded out all the other facts in that paragraph. ALL cops have the authority to make unwarranted arrests if they witness the crime! Even citizens can do it too! The only thing that provision was trying to extend was the ability of the secret police (a new uniformed division) to be able to make arrests under the same circumstances that regular cops already have the authority to do. This is not creating a new secret police with unlimited powers that the Left is wrongly upset about. It is creating a “uniformed? division that is more visible and has the powers to make arrests…
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp109&sid=cp109WvwUu&refer=&r_n=hr333.109&item=&sel=TOC_208072& (this is another example of Left distorted truths)
So, I am very interested in what you can post here as concrete proof that Bush supports monopolies, and opposes any anti-monopoly laws. Please provide proof.
1:14 am [ Quote ]
Hey Mac,
You still haven’t shown me one article meeting the ridiculous criteria that Ian outlined in his original post.
Hmmmm….
11:52 am [ Quote ]
elguapo
i’m not going to try to counter your long essay but here’s something for you to read. all the info in here is researchable as well. enjoy
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2002228040&zsection_id=268883724&slug=sundaygoodman03&date=20050403/
1:57 pm [ Quote ]
John X
This is a commentary. Where are his references or links for proof? If I told you in a commentary that Bush has the secret to turn lead into gold would you believe that? These are commentaries. Commentaries, both from the left and right, have the tendency to omit anything that might contradict their article. Here is one huge fact list that proves the Goodman’s comments on Iraq and terrorism wrong:
http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200506290912.asp
This guy actually uses a reference and actual facts to back up his paper. Please read the facts he outlines that much of the world forgot or is oblivious to. The reason people believed this back then was because these facts were exposed, once, for about a day or 2, but then forgotten about as soon as the “No WMD?, and “Bush lied and people died? propaganda started growing from the left.
And the media conveys lies form anyone who spews it, even Sheehan. They will do anything for a story, the NY Times is a classic example.
And hosts are not getting fired for anti-Semitic or ant-war views. They are getting fired for the ratings, which reflects how the public views the show’s reliability. Katie Couric has had some pretty antiwar and blatant anti-Bush segments (and a lot of incorrect facts too), and nothing has happened to her. The same for nut on Harball. By the way, Fox News is also owned (by a lot of shares) by a very rich Saudi. This guy supposedly tried to get Fox to filter some things it has covered about the war and Islam in general.
There has been a lot of anti-war/Bush from all medias, including Fox. If Bush owned the media, then why doesn’t more good news from Iraq get reported? There is a lot more going on and getting accomplished there than elections and purple fingers. I think some people are just disgusted that something good can come out of a major screw up. And to root otherwise, is inhumane.
If Bush really controlled the media, the extreme left dems would have exposed that by now and used it as more ammo to impeach Bush. Just because certain companies own by stock shares does not mean they are personally filtering the news.
1:59 pm [ Quote ]
John X:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the Goodmans used facts too, but their commentary show no conclusive evidence of their claim. Just a far fetched theory.
2:10 pm [ Quote ]
John X:
One more point, this guy from the NRO forgot to mention the actual money trail uncovered linking Saddam’s gov’t to Palestinian terrorists, paying families of suicide bombers a reward on average $30,000 (USD) for attacking Israeli targets, military or civilian (or children). This is a fact that was discovered long before 9-11.