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May 21, 2005

Last night Sean Hannity had Michael Crook from Forsake Our Troops on – and boy did he go off on this guy. Who can blame who them, Michael Crook calls our troops “scumbags” with a petty argument. Surprisingly Alan Colmes takes the same side as Hannity on this issue.

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99 Responses to “Troops are “Scumbags” (VIDEO)”
  1. 1
    Capitalist Infidel Said:
    12:55 pm 

    Sean and Alan were confused about what this guy was saying about the pay structure. This idiot thinks that the soldiers are paid too much not too little. If they would have known that we would have had some real fireworks!

  2. 2
    The Armageddon Project » Michael Crook Gets Both Barrels Pinged With:
    3:58 pm 

    [...] d got his ass handed to him — not only by Sean Hannity, but by Alan Colmes as well. The Political Teen has the video. On a side note: Colmes may be a flaming liberal, but it’s g [...]

  3. 3
    JACK ARMY Said:
    1:08 pm 

    That was a great interview! Both Hannity and Colmes painted the guy in his own color: idiot.

  4. 4
    John Wayne Said:
    10:04 pm 

    Wow. I really enjoyed that interview. I’ve read the comments Crook puts on his site and he sounds all tough. It’s funny how tough he looked with his stuttering when Sean was all over him making him look about an inch tall. I usually don’t agree with Sean but wow I was impressed with him there. I was also shocked to see both Hannity and Colmes agree. Sorry Michael you lose.

  5. 5
    Steve Said:
    1:39 am 

    Looks like we shut him down for now…read below:

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I am informing a select few of the situation that is going on with the “forsakethetroops.info” website. In the past week we’ve recieved a sufficent amount of emails in regards to the content of the website. It seems to be in our best interest to terminate the account and have given the domain owner until Saturday, 28 2005 to remove the contents of his website off our server and to find another service provider.

    again, we apologize for our late reply and hope any further problems can be resolved.

    Sincerely,

    Kerry Jones
    BHW Support Department
    http://www.bighugeweb.com

  6. 6
    Darwin Said:
    4:04 am 

    Hannity and the other guy are windbags too.

    This guy is obviously just a moron, but I’m really not impressed with the two guys bullying him. The first I’ve seen of these guys, and I’m not impressed.

    Thanks for the video, though!

    =darwin

  7. 7
    Dylan Said:
    7:11 pm 

    Does anyone have this guys home address?I think he needs a visit by a Marine Corps Recruiter!

  8. 8
    Dick Said:
    9:11 pm 

    If I had this guy’s address, he’d be an entrant on the Darwin Awards in no time flat. I hope that somebody mugs him in the streets of NY, rapes him, then goes to a remote area in upper NY (near canada), ties him to a tree, then shoots him a few times with a .22 so that he dies from blood loss rather than just getting hit in vital parts.

  9. 9
    marine wife Said:
    11:53 pm 

    People who make comments like that arent even worth our time. Our men are over there fighting b/c people like this idiot wanted them there the first place. I say ship he ass to Iraq and let him see how it feels. If he thinks hes so good and that our men are dying for no reason then lets send him and every other idiot like him over there and bring our men home. oooorahhhh.

  10. 10
    coolio Said:
    7:15 am 

    Nothing quite like watching conservatives fall for a prank. “uhhh hyuk! he shuld be raped ayand beatan! and den shot wit me daddy’s pistol!!”

    note: Crook represents the far right.

  11. 11
    devildog Said:
    11:30 am 

    the military personnel of this country have a great deal of responsibility and to know that pieces of shit like you exsist it sadden’s me. If I was your parents I would disown you for the comments that you’ve made for if it wasn’t for the men and women of the armed forces your DUMBASS! wouldn’t exsist…

  12. 12
    devildog Said:
    11:30 am 

    the military personnel of this country have a great deal of responsibility and to know that pieces of shit like you exsist it sadden’s me. If I was your parents I would disown you for the comments that you’ve made for if it wasn’t for the men and women of the armed forces your DUMBASS! wouldn’t exsist… kill

  13. 13
    James Said:
    9:48 pm 

    This comment is to COOLIO.

    “note: Crook represents the far right.”

    what are you talking about?! Crook is more left then the FRENCH! The right wants to put MORE money into the military, and want to give more back to them when they get back!! It’s because of stupid programs that lefties have created that we don’t have the budget to do this!

  14. 14
    Michael Jones Said:
    1:56 pm 

    “note: Crook represents the far right.”

    Wrong. I’ve talked with Michael on more than one occasion and the only thing he represents is himself. He’s DEFINITELY not “far-right”, not by any means.

    If anything, he’s an “anarcho-capitalist”...and an attention whore.

  15. 15
    Jay Said:
    2:13 pm 

    You know you are truly an idiot when both sides of the political spectrum put you in your place.

  16. 16
    Ian Said:
    4:18 pm 

    Amen

  17. 17
    Jeremiah Adams Said:
    6:29 pm 

    Michael Crook should be sent overseas if he feels that way towards us troops. Since he said that about us let him say that to my face i will be more than happy to hand him a grade ‘A’ ass beating and i know i signed the dotted line and i am proud to say that i am a U.S. Marine and i will fight for my country till the day i die and hopefully your son will sign on the dotted line.

  18. 18
    A Marine Said:
    1:24 pm 

    First my hand goes out to Mr. Hannity. Very, Very good choice of words. I loved it!! I have read a lot about this idiot in the past few day on the web. Don’t know how true it is but it seems that Crook tried to join the army back in 1999 and was kicked out in boot camp. Everything I read about this idiot is different every time. This dude is a fake. He just wants somebody to notice him. If you ask me, he picked the wrong group of people. I emailed him and told him a few things and then he would not grant me access to his website. Got to love it. Anyway I told him about some of the Marines that were killed and shot in my unit while we were in Iraq. I told him, that everybody that is killed or wounded in combat has somebody that loves them and he would have to watch his back for a long time to come because somebody out there was going to knock his brains back into his head. I wish I could see that. On another note: I am done talking and wasting my time on this idiot. I will ask God to grow Michael a brain and spare him a bet down which he deserves.

  19. 19
    Ian Said:
    2:08 pm 

    You have to hand it to Colmes too – it is rare that the duo agrees with each other.

  20. 20
    jarjarhead Said:
    5:15 pm 

    I am very anti-war and anti-Bush, but it was embarassing to watch this guy. He is definitely loco, and is not speaking for 99.99999% of us anti-war types.

  21. 21
    paul. hanlon Said:
    11:24 am 

    I have been in the Army for the past 20 yrs, I take this citizen with a grain of salt, my resons for this is it reenforces why i do what i do, to help give the fredoms that we all enjoy to everybody(even if i dont agree with a view )its nice to know that my lifes commitment gives people the bravery and the fredom of thought to speak their mind, thats a great thing and makes me want to do this for the next 20 yrs, god bless this country and all the differances that make it worth defending

  22. 22
    Aaron Whitcomb Said:
    12:25 pm 

    If you think you are a true patriot, and you think you understand what we go through, then how could you think to say something like that i am a country boy, and i dont always do what i think is right. I try to do what i know is right and if i ever see you in my whole life or the after life, will see like a simple thing to see because you’ll wish that you had went over to iraq. Because i have family and so do you, and to say something like that you disgrace us all.

  23. 23
    Chief P Said:
    11:42 pm 

    The more I think of this video, the more I realize that there is no real reason that this “Spineless Wonder” should have even been give the time to speak – He only wants his “15 minutes of fame”, and to make money off of that. Well, he has more than his 15 minutes, now let’s not promote his ignorant remarks any longer and let him and his words die a slow agonizing death. We should hope that the rest of his generation is not as spineless, ignorant, shallow minded, and irresponsible as he is. I know my 21 year old daughter is not.

  24. 24
    michele Said:
    5:53 am 

    It’s to bad that he wasn’t in the World Trade Center on 9/11

  25. 25
    Holly Said:
    10:14 am 

    Michael Crook’s “argument” is solely based on the benefits the military receives. How idiotic to show such disdain for a person over something so petty. That guy is a fool.

  26. 26
    James Said:
    4:44 pm 

    This guy knows nothing of the military pay structure that he speaks of. Because if he did he would realize that military pay is not a lot of money given the amount of responsibility that is given to our fighting young men and women. I just got out of the Navy after 8 1/2 years and part of the reason was the lack of pay. The amount that I was being paid was not directly in proportion to the amount of responsibilities that I had or the amount of hours that I worked. If I was to be paid for the number of hours that i actually worked I would be a lot better off finacially If I were to ever meet him I would take him to Norfolk and show him how people that serve in the greatest military in the world actually live…most in squalor and barely able to make ends meet. To say that the military is just a form of retroactive abortion is idiotic, ignorant and just plain dumb! This guy should go to Iraq and then come back and say that our military gets paid too much, ha.

  27. 27
    An American Said:
    7:42 pm 

    After the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, my grandfather and one of his good friends joined the Navy. He served in the Pacific, leaving my grandmother at home in California to take care of my father. My father joined the Army during Vietnam because of the draft…Michael, that’s where a bunch of “volunteers” names are put into a lottery and then drawn to see who will be given the chance to “leach off of the government”...oh yeah and put their life at risk for those benefits that some didn’t have the opportunity to “enjoy”. My father was one of the few lucky ones…he was only shot a few times. With my father’s guidance and knowing the long history of military service in my family (dating back as early as the American Civil War), I pondered service to my country. I had considered my willingness to sacrifice my life for my country and the hardships that I would endure, not including being away from family, childhood friends, and my home. I made my decision (not sure how much of it was based off of my 4 years of college that I paid for out of MY OWN pocket). While serving in Korea, I lost my grandfather… A day doesn’t go by that I don’t hear his last words to me, ringing in my ears…”When are you coming home?” Try living with something like that your whole life, Michael. Then, maybe…just maybe you will be educated enough to understand what sacrifice costs.

  28. 28
    sgt.ofMarines Said:
    5:06 pm 

    I DONT KNOW WHY WE FEEL THE NEED TO CATER TO WHAT THIS ASS CLOWN THINKS.

    ALL OF US WHO SERVE KNOW WHY WE DO IT. WE DO IT FOR EACH OTHER,FOR THE ONES BEFORE US WHO SERVED, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR OUR FAMILIES. FOR THE ONES WHO DIDNT HAVE THE NUTS TO SERVE, BECAUSE THEY LIVE THERE LIFE IN FEAR OF DEATH, OR THINK THEY ARE TO GOOD TO PULL THERE WEIGHT. WE DONT DO IT FOR YOU. JUST UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY YOU JUST LIVE HERE, AND BENIFIT FROM OUR BRAVERY AND SACRAFISES.

  29. 29
    STS!/SS Keith Hurtt, USN Retired Said:
    5:27 pm 

    This young man has an opinion, albeit, totally idiotic. He really should be more knowledgeable about “the stand” that he is going to take. When I retired in 1995, my immediate family had 108 years active service to this great country of ours. Two of those were spit on when they returned from service in Viet Nam. The San Diego Tribunes headlines asked “Where are all the Drunken Sailors” when many of us returned from a 6 month deployment in the Western Pacific. My neice and nephew both just returned from tours in Iraq, by the Grace of God. Ignorance comes in all shapes and sizes. If you don’t like the country our service personnel are fighting for,...give up your American citizenship. Love it or Leave it!!

  30. 30
    Proud American Said:
    8:25 am 

    It really is a shame that this young man calls himself an American. I, myself, am a soldier currently deployed in Iraq at this very moment. What really amazes me is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Iraqi citizens are more than thankful for what we (the troops) are doing for them…giving them their first taste of freedom! Ironically enough, more times than not, it’s a small portion of American citizens who oppose our efforts the most…this guy being one of them. We are all doing what was asked of us by our government. I wish Mr. Crook could hear the horrific tales of former dictator Saddam Hussein, told first-hand by his own people. I think he then would start to realize why having the military is truly a necessity. I wish news programs would start previewing the American citizens to the numerous success stories that are emerging from Iraq on a regular basis, rather than waste air time on people like Michael Crook.

  31. 31
    Simple Man Said:
    9:19 am 

    Mr. Crook is sorely mistaken in his rights. The only rights we have are to believe what we want, which is different than expressing it because some places you die if you do, and dying. Everything else is a privilege in some way, shape, or form. As far as pay, which I am not in the military for, he should talk to the same civilians that he votes for and who set our pay and tell us where to deploy. Not one single military member can make any military, pay, or benefit decision unless it is approved by civilians in Washington that are voted into office by our countries citizens. That is democracy in action, you don’t like it you can find some place that does it better, but I doubt it will be on this planet. A perfect world exists in the movies and ones mind. To all my brothers and sisters in arms, I don’t know how many it would take to kick his ass but I know how many we will use. Out.

  32. 32
    PFC DINatale Said:
    10:10 am 

    Well i suppose bieng in the service i would be expected to be very angry, and im not unirritated. I Mean i would probelly ruin a good month for the guy, but im mostly just dissapointed in the guy. If he doesnt like my country then he can leave its ok with with me. Ive lost 4 buddies in the war in iraq since i joined a year ago and i know they didnt die for nothing, i know they were damn fine soldiers and heros. So dont waste much thought on the guy, people like him are a side affect of freespeech, and im sure more people like him will pop their heads out of the sand as this war continues.

    P.S. just so the guy knows he has more to fear from the military spouses out there…ive seen grown GI’s that could bench press a bradly cower to them…Gotta love em

  33. 33
    Shelly Said:
    2:02 pm 

    I agree that this guy should be kicked out of OUR country. Hey Michael if you don’t like what our country does for us, then LEAVE.

    I want to thank each and every military personel and their families. My dad is retired AF and was in Vietnam War, I can only thank god he returned or he would have never met me, because I was born while he was there.

  34. 34
    hi i live in spain Said:
    2:04 pm 

    this guy just made me laugh. hes goofy as shit. just look at his hair he wants to be made fun of. goofy bastard. im in the navy and im 18 i’ve been in for a year and i have to say i am being paid far too little. for starters i am stationed in spain, i could only send 2 bags and a carry on with me. i had to sell all my other stuff because i couldnt bring it. i live in the barracks where they treat us like kids…i have to buy a new tv, new computer… cable…i have to start my life completely over. how about you try that miss crooks…bye

  35. 35
    Keri Said:
    11:15 pm 

    If this guy really knew what it was like to serve his country he wouldn’t talk the shit that he does. He needs to realize that you have to have a passion to defend our nation b/c if you did it soley for the money then you wouldn’t make it. We are not paid like we should but you don’t hear us on National TV complaining about it…instead we do what we have to do b/c when it comes down to it it’s not about the money. I love defending my country and sure the pay isn’t great but the look in another human’s eyes after you just defended him and his country it’s priceless and there is no amount of money that I could be paid to feel the way I feel when I hear the National Anthem being played. I am in the Air Force and I am stationed overseas and I have served in Iraq and it’s bad when you have Iraqi’s who love Americans and America more then our own fellow Americans. At least Iraqi’s aren’t taking for granted the very things that we provide them. Michael Crook needs to spend an enlistment in the military and then let’s here his story afterwards….I can almost bet it would be different. May God continue to bless our Marines, Sailors, Soldiers, Airmen and our Allies in all that we do and may the Devil piss on Michael Crook.

  36. 36
    Edward A. Parrish, Jr. Said:
    12:03 am 

    This idiot needs tobe drafted by the military and sent to a hot zone and then maybe he will understand That men and women have given their lives to enable him the freedom of speech he feels he should continue to have. Being a current member of the military people like this person make me really realize that our military is not appreciated or respected by a great deal of Amerian perople. Really Sad.

  37. 37
    toward Said:
    12:28 pm 

    this idiot needs to be deported to iraq. he is not an american,he is nothing. my son was in iraq and he made it home ALIVE thank GOD. I hope this idiot would go and never come back.

  38. 38
    BinFord Bry Said:
    3:51 pm 

    Stormin’ Norman might have a comment somewhat like this:

    I hope this Liberal stillborn realizes that we are a military society that believes that forgiveness is God’s job. Our job as Warfighters is to arrange the meeting.

  39. 39
    BinFord Bry Said:
    3:53 pm 

    Let me and Gunny have 5 minutes with this guy…..

  40. 40
    A1C Raymond C. Campbell Said:
    6:15 pm 

    I would love to swap lives with this ignorant twit. I would also love to meet him. If I swapped lives then he would see exactly how over paid we are, if anything we are under paid. It burns me up that some people in my country are this stupid. I would love to meet him so I could show him the error of his ways, you never bite the hand that feeds you. Or it might turn in to a fist and show you what required PT does for musle structure.

  41. 41
    Justice Said:
    7:49 pm 

    Supposedly his address is 301 E. Jefferson Street, Syracuse NY, 13210. Before anyone decides to frag his house or otherwise dismember him, please make sure this is the right info as I’m not sure myself.

    And videotape it.

  42. 42
    Dave Bowers Said:
    12:35 pm 

    Thanks to the interviewers for a great job , what an ignorant punk….

  43. 43
    Eric Said:
    1:45 pm 

    As Far as his complaint tax money going into military pay and compensations, he needs to realize that all military members pay taxes also. No one is exempt from paying taxes. True we may not pay it for a short period of time because of a deployment or some sort of short term exemption, but it all comes down to this: we all pay taxes.
    He needs to wake up. He should take a trip down to Arlington National cemetary a look at all the graves of fallen soldiers. He need to go to school and read up on how this nation got to be the nation it is today, by the strength and courage of our military.

    Once everyone stops talking about this guy, in time he and his cause will be forgotten or forsaken like his website.

    And Micheal Crook needs to stop looking like a white version of Price. Ha.

  44. 44
    Ralph Said:
    11:26 pm 

    This just goes to show what happens when a brother and sister have a child. If he had a lick of sense he would be dangerous only to himself. He has no clue as to what the hell he is talking about. It would be like me trying to tell a nuclear scientist how to do his job. All I know is what goes around comes around and he will reap what he has sewn. Have a nice life Michael cause I do not see much of a future for you if you choose to keep on this track. There are enough hard core americans that will eventually take matters into their own hands and do what they think is right….

  45. 45
    Will Said:
    8:45 am 

    This asshat needs his head handed to him.
    I tried for years to enlist. They wouldnt take me. Now, when they need warm bodies to serve, Im too friggin old.

  46. 46
    BinFord Bry Said:
    1:17 pm 

    I dunno…Bring back the draft???

    “Paging Private Michael Crook, please report to the First Sgt’s office for a wall-to-wall counselling! Then, immediately report to your assigned barracks for additional remedial training….”

    What’s a “CODE RED” again, Sir?......

    Now, how about an all-expense-paid trip to any third-world country of choice….Afganistan has beautiful sunsets…

  47. 47
    jay Said:
    12:30 pm 

    This guys is a complete idiot. Yes we signed the dotted line but we didn’t sign it to die. If it wasnt for my fellow soldiers. Who knows how we would live or if we would even have the rights we have right now. Like his freedom of speech. Maybe he just doesn’t have the courage tosign the dotted line and give back to his country. I don’t know what he is talking about with the money issue. I find myself struggling sometimes with the money i do make. sure the soldiers that are in combat receive more money but how much is an american life worth. PRICELESS

  48. 48
    kate Said:
    8:54 am 

    I just wanted to point out that there have been a lot of messages about how someone can work at McDonald’s and make more money than what we do. I’m not sure if that’s neccessarily true, but it’s gotta be pretty damn close. Second, I know of and article that was written by Cindy Williams. Not the one from Laverne and Shirley. It’s a different one. There’s also a response from an airman. Take it for what it’s worth.

  49. 49
    N/A Said:
    9:45 am 

    I AM IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT BEING A SOLDIER IS ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS OUT THERE. FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE TO HERE ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THIS GUY WHO OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT ANY IDEA WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE IN MY SHOES. IF MY JOB IS SO EASY AND THE MONEY IS SO EXCESSIVE THEN JOIN UP AND WORK ALONG SIDE ME. NO CIVILIAN REALLY KNOWS WHAT IT IS TO BE A SOLDIER, UNLESS YOU ARE OR HAVE BEEN ONE. AND AS FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ, IF NEED BE YES I WILL DIE FOR MY CAUSE. BUT I THINK ALOT OF AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT CAUSE IS. SO I WILL EXPLAIN IT AS BEST AS I CAN. I AM VERY THANKFULL THAT I AM AN AMERICAN, I HAVE MANY FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS THAT EVEN A DISCIPLINED SOILDER CAN TAKE FOR GRANTED FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT FORTUNATELY I GET A VERY CLEAR REMINDER OF WHAT LIFE IS LIKE WITHOUT FREEDOM. AMERICANS ALREADY HAVE THE GIFT OF FREEDOM. THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ DO NOT. WHAT I OFFER IS NOT WAR WHEN I GO THERE, BUT THE CHANCE OF SOMETHING BETTER FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. SAY I DID DIE WHILE I AM IN IRAQ BY A TERRORIST ATTACK, I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE BLUNT OF THE ATTACK RATHER THAN SOME INNOCENT CHILD NEARBY OR PERHAPS SOME OF MY FELLOW SOLDIERS. I CAN DIE THERE WITH A PEACE OF MIND THAT I WAS GIVING THE GIFT OF FREEDOM TO A COMPLETE STRANGER AT THE PRICE OF MY OWN LIFE. LET ME ASK YOU, HAVE YOU EVER HELPED ANYBODY ON THE FLY ON A BUSY DAY AND FEEL BETTER HAVING TAKEN TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY DAY TO OFFER TO PERHAPS CHANGE A FLAT TIRE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. IF SO YOU MORE THAN LIKELY FELT GOOD LATER THAT DAY OR NIGHT WHEN YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT. MULTIPLY THAT BY YEARS OF DAYS JUST LIKE THAT. I AM THAT TYPE OF PERSON THAT ENJOYS HELPING OTHERS. SOME PEOPLE ASK THEN WHY THE MILITARY. I REPLY WITH, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CHILD SMILE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIFE AT THE AGE OF 5. I CAN SAY I HAVE. I PLAYED WITH A CHILD IN IRAQ THAT HAS NEVER KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE HAPPY. WHEN THAT CHILD SMILED IT WAS THE GREATEST FEELING I HAVE EVER FELT. FROM THAT MOMENT ON I KNEW TRULY WHAT IT IS TO BE A SOLDIER. IF I HAD TO DIE FOR THAT MOMENT THEN SO BE IT, IT IS MY DESTINY. MY FAMILY WOULD NOT MOURN MY DEATH, BUT RATHER CELEBRATE MY LIFE. UNFORTUNATELY SOME CIVILIANS HAVE A VERY DISTORTED VIEW OF THE MILITARY, BUT THAT IS OKAY. I WILL STILL FIGHT AND DIE FOR YOUR FREEDOMS AS WELL, ALL THAT I ASK IN RETURN IS THAT YOU REMEMER AND UNDERSTAND WHY I AM OK WITH IT. OH AND BY THE WAY SOLDIERS ALSO PAY TAXES JUST LIKE CIVILIANS. AND I DID MAKE MORE MONEY ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT MONEY IS NOT EVERTHING, BUT LIFE IS AND MINE IS A LIFE I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE FOR BEING WHO I AM, A SOLDIER IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE THAT SUPPORT THE TROOPS YOU VOICE IS HEARD VERY CLEAR AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

  50. 50
    Maggie Said:
    9:11 pm 

    As a teacher, I hope that I don’t send any of my students out into the world with such a jaded, closed-minded, and heartless view of the world. What a poor excuse for a human being. I’d be surprised if this young man lives any sort of a fulfilling, high-quality life. As the daughter and girlfriend of two former Marines and the granddaughter of a former Navy radio man, I can understand why this would infuriate anyone with a loved-one serving.

  51. 51
    Punk Said:
    11:11 pm 

    Freedom of speach…...right…... This shows how much of a freedom you guys got…. im not saying a agree with the guy, but hes got the freedom to think/express such things. Or im a so wrong?
    Why are you peeps so care so much, Its one idiot…. this world got loads of them.

    Heck why do i care , im european.

  52. 52
    Punk Said:
    11:13 pm 

    sry for some bad english, its not my native tongue

  53. 53
    Jimmy Said:
    2:09 am 

    I’m a 2 time 23 yoa vet, was active duty, now reserve, and a full time police officer. I’ve seen some real dumbasses but he takes the taco. I love America and I think you guys already took care of everything that needs to be said about this idiot.

  54. 54
    N/A Said:
    8:25 am 

    First of all as hard as it is to say this, I think that people should pray for this lost individual. I don’t think he really has any clue what so ever what he is actually talking about. I serve in the military and I know that it is not perfect, but for him to act like he knows everything about our lifestyle is ignorant, arrogant, and completely wrong. It makes me mad to see people that just complain about things. I am doing something with my life. I wake up every morning with a job to go to. I can come home and look at my wife and two sons and know that I am doing something right. This guy is completely lost. I think he not only has a problem with the military and government, but I think that he doesn’t even like his self. Like I said in the beggining, people need to pray for this guy. I am a Christian and I know that is what I am supposed to do. As hard as it may be. Calling him names and insulting him will only add to his fire and passion for doing this. This man will not affect my life no matter what he says, he needs to be worried about the condition of his life.

  55. 55
    frank Said:
    1:07 pm 

    someone needs to #$%^& shoot him

  56. 56
    Amy Said:
    1:24 pm 

    I am not only a proud citizen of the United States of America but a military wife, daughter, sister, sister-in-law, niece and granddaughter. My family members chose to honorably serve their country. They have been involved in conflicts and wars and fortunately all have returned safely. I have not only seen the Hannity and Colmes interview, but hae also visited the “Forsake The Troops” website. I am dismayed at this man’s ignorance. The pay and benefits extended to military members and their families is mediocre at best. We have service members who live below the poverty level. They are forced to place families on WIC and ask for government assistance. Yet they work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365/366 days a year to defend the freedoms that Crook is entitled to. Those service members that forgo the Basic Housing Allowance and live in government housing are not living in extravagant homes as Crook would have one believe. Most facilities are old and require maintenance. The medical care that is provided is not what the civilian world receives. While our military physicians and staff are well trained and competent, we still do not have access to the most technologically advanced procedures and most renowned doctors and facilities. These “excessive amounts” of pay and benefits that military members receive are paid for by every tax paying citizen, including the active duty, reserved, retired or disabled service member and their working spouses. Walking in the shoes of a military member would not even allow Crook to see the great sacrifices that are made by our service members and their families because he is too narrow minded. He does not understand that you cannot place a price on freedom. You also can never adequately be compensated for missing your child’s birth, first steps, prom or graduation because you were deployed. Our lives as military families are not easy, but it is a life that I am proud of.

  57. 57
    Rachel Said:
    1:44 pm 

    It is because people volunteer to become soliders of the United States that we don’t need a military draft. This is why Michael Crook is not one of the many over seas fighting. I hate people who blame the troops for being in Iraq. It’s not that they have any say in the decisions that are made. They are over there to do what our government feels what needs to be done. So if anyone is angry for the war in Iraq they should be mad at the government and NOT at the soliders. Support them in wanting to earn a living, willing to risk their lives, and being brave enough to do what many of us don’t. Whatever war we are fighting there will always be two different sides that don’t agree on war, but without a military we would be so volunerable that 911 could be an everyday occurrence.

  58. 58
    matt Said:
    3:21 pm 

    This guy probably tried to join the military years ago and was denied. So now he is all butt-hurt about what’s happening with our military that he has to go on the air and talk about his crappy “feelings.” I like to talk face to face with him and see who’s “feelings” really get heard This moron needs to fight better battles and leave the real one’s to the big boys. Thanks all you out there fighting the good fight!! God Bless and Semper Fi
    Sgt White USMC

  59. 59
    YOB Said:
    2:35 am 

    KILL HIM

  60. 60
    t Said:
    5:43 am 

    This guy dislikes the military so much but does he realize themilitary fights for freedom? The US is a free country because of the military so in my opinion he should be sent/taken to another country and see what it’s like not to have freedom to do certain things. Then he would see what it’s all about.

  61. 61
    VASailor Said:
    11:11 am 

    Two things. First, Michael, before attacking the benefits of the military, do some research and find out the details of it. For instance, most Medicaid recipients recieve more solid medical care than military members do. Most military members do NOT have ONE specific doctor they go to. They are assigned the next available doctor as is available. Welfare and Medicaid recipients get assigned a Primary Care Manager and that person sees them for all their care. How does that compare? As far as the pay goes, we do NOT get paid enough. Again, for instance, take an electronics technician. What is the average salary in the civilian world for an ET? 60-70K a Yr. Even with 15 yrs experience, an ET in the military can only make 36K a yr (base pay only). Add the housing allowance…you get about 48K a yr. Still very short of civilian pay. Most military members and their families barely squeak by from month to month.. Exactly, Michael, how are we overpaid? I missed my baby’s birth, as well as his first steps. I missed my eldest son’s first home run, and my middle son’s first day of kindergarten…tell me I get paid enough for what I do. Go..fight for me…get me more…then, I might allow myself to respect you. Consider yourself schooled.

  62. 62
    Jason H/USAF Said:
    7:47 pm 

    Where in the hell did this idiot come from. This is the first time I have heard and seen about this guy. Someone needs to go up to Syracuse and open that can of whoop ass on him. I watched this video earlier today and I have to say, he did get his point across. He also got under my skin. I was on fire after I saw the clip of dumbass. Maybe we need to get two Marines to really go out there and kill him since he likes to fake it. I have his phone number if anyone wants it. My email is Jason5602@yahoo.com. It’s a voicemail system but he will call back. I called earlier and 10 minutes later he called back. I held my tongue, it was very hard. I didn’t want to start any harassment crap especially since I’m in the Air Force. Thanks for your time. Jason

  63. 63
    SGT M-- Aussie Army Said:
    7:20 am 

    When I first seen this interview, I thought that they were interviewing “WEDNESDAY ADAMS” and then I listened too the uter crap that the little bitch goes on about—next he’ll be attacking us aussies for standing proudly alongside you guys—I’ll pay for his ticket to IRAQ —- we need to clean out the gene pool—-GOD I think that you guys get a worse renumeration package then US in the AUSSIE military even in aussie dollars—keep up he good work LADS “we do it for a reason”

  64. 64
    Darian Dedekind Said:
    2:16 pm 

    Far from it, “freedom of speech” for American at home was never a pretext for war. The official White House objective in the beginning concerned the “ties” between Saddam and Al-Qaida—more specifically Osama Bin Laden. Later, the White House addresses the weapons of mass destruction issue and makes fraudulent and exaggerated claims concerning the presence of such weapons in Iraq. If that were true, one of the largest weapons bunkers (clearly visible from outer space) would have been destroyed in the first airstrikes against Iraq prior to the subsequent invasion. This bunker was never destroyed and was a year later discovered by a patrol. Once the WMD issue was found wanting, the White House once again changed its official stance to the rhetoric that “Saddam was an evil man who needed to be gotten rid of.” The main reason why Saddam has not—and will never—get his trial is simple: cross examination would reveal details of U.S. involvement in the gassing of the Kurds—not to mention the fact that any physical evidence of the weapons used by “Chemical Ali” would have, figuratively speaking or otherwise, “made in the U.S.A” labels. So there is no chance that any “evidence” or “prosecution” will continue against Saddam without some kind of plan to shut the entire public from seeing the actual specifics of the trial. Another interesting fact is that the prosecution against Saddam is trying to solicit help from the Iranian government to bring “evidence” against Saddam—clearly this “evidence,” is nothing more than a sham designed to keep the U.S. out of the picture.

    As far as the pathological patriotism of many people in America today who continue to demand others who disagree with them to “shut up or leave”—I can only say this:

    Welcome to Germany 1939!

  65. 65
    Anton Sherwood Said:
    11:09 am 

    Hear hear, Darian. It’s interesting how many of the comments here imply that war with Iraq was inevitable.

    Nearly every US military action since 1814 was optional. Next May 30, let’s remember the lies that were told to give our fine fighting men so many opportunities for dulce et decorum.

  66. 66
    Mr. Snuggles Said:
    6:12 am 

    though what this guy said was wrong, mean, and just plain foolish, i think we’re all missing the point

    We all have the freedom of expression (not “speach” as most would think), so he can think and say what ever he damn well pleases, in return we can think and say whatever we damn well please about what HE thinks and says, but the death threats are a little far. What he said may have been terrible and insulting, but know one was hurt, not even emotionaly, this guy was such a moron that it wiould be a waste of time to even hear what he has to say, thus there is no real reason to take it to heart. Now if this guy blew up a building fool of children to make his point (just spouting ideas, i know it’s ilogical for someone to do that when your fight is with the army) then you would have a good reason to send some death threats, but just spouting off thoughtless and somewhat embarrasing ideas…not so much, i mean, you get mad at your little brother for doing stuff like that

    now, i am only 15 so i don’t know nearly as much as you other people who commented, but from the way i see it; he had a dumb idea, he made it public, he was shot down by logic, he does home and cries, we all tell him he’s an idiot some more, he starts to get a clue, end of story

  67. 67
    richard Said:
    11:04 pm 

    crook is proof that some people should have never smoked pot

  68. 68
    Marc Nickerson Said:
    12:57 pm 

    My name is Marc Nickerson, I am a Corporal in the United States Marine Corps. After being in Iraq 2 times, and being on the ground with the infantry, and I might add one of the worst places in Iraq as we speak, which would be called the Sunni triangle of Death, this guy Crook enrages me, losing good friends over there and nearly my own life I have to say that I would love for this guy to have been in our shoes for just 1 minute. His anomocity has nothing to do with the troops, to be completely honest with you when we are over there on the ground, most of us lose concept of the reason we are there and just focus on keeping each other alive. People like this make me sick and he definnately deserves everything he gets. My Marines and I appreciate all the support we get and personally thank you. Cpl Marc Nickerson, USMC

  69. 69
    Petty Officer Streif. Said:
    4:56 am 

    It’s sad to see an American fall to this level. Strangely, Im not angered by this mans belief. However, one thing does irritate me. Were did this mans parents fail, or better yet, when did they give up? Its funny to me that so much time and energy can be spent on such a sour subject. By giving this man air time, or any time, fuels his hatred. I write this post from a military installation, wearing body armor and 9mm strapped to my side. You know what, Im gonna keep doing it. Matter of a fact, you have just motivated me to re-enlist. So in my opinion, I would like to see no more breath wasted on such a small life form. Stop fueling his fire. He obviously did not recieve enough attention as a child.

    “We have neither the time, nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that we provide”.

    Mr. Crook, Thank you for your opinion. It’s duly noted. I wouldnt expect to see a change. Try putting your energy towards something productive.

  70. 70
    KB Said:
    2:10 am 

    darian (69), keeping your head stuck in the sand is circa “America” 1939 NOT Germany 1939. besides.. you’re going to find yourself mistaken on the trials and evidence, no matter the reason for “US” stepping up.

  71. 71
    Wayne Boudoin Said:
    12:37 pm 

    I fee sorry for this guy. He is young and has a lot to learn. It is easy to sit back and criticize. It’s much harder to get out and make a difference. I did 24 years in the most powerful Air Force in the free world. I volunteered, in spite of the draft. It wasn’t for the pay. There wasn’t much compensation back then. It was in support of the Viet Nam war. I left college to do so and never looked back. I have been around the world in many good and even more bad places. Being a human being does not automatically give you rights. I have been places where people were scared to talk to you for fear of being thought a traitor and hauled away to never be seen again. This is for real people! Freedom IS NOT Free. I could go on and on, but I won’t. Give the guy a break, ok. An arm, a leg, a…. Chill. And don’t be wasting perfectly good bullets on this dude. He isn’t worthy of your thoughts or feelings. May God Protect the Troops! Good Day All!

  72. 72
    I don't support the troops either Said:
    4:39 pm 

    Yes being a human does give you rights. It may be difficult to use those rights, but when it is, those rights are intruded upon. But the rights are still there. Anyone who isn’t able to speak still has rights, but also an inability due to circumstances. I am not appreciative of the US military or anyone in it. I personally have never asked for their “protection” and I for one do not consent to all the genocidal crime they have committed during the US’s entire existence.

  73. 73
    steve Said:
    7:55 pm 

    that man does not know a thing i was a demotivated marine then as soon as i saw that i had more motivation to do what i do and do the job that i have better. i hope and so does the rest of my company to never see him walking on the streets or we will give him a proper education on the military.

  74. 74
    Shawn Said:
    4:04 am 

    I dont think he should have been on national television bashing our soldiers. Yes the loser is looking for attention but he shouldnt be getting it talking about how our soldier are paid to much when they actually arent paid enough. I almost feel sorry for him now because if i were him i wouldnt be walking down the street. Wait no i dont he deserves what ever he gets. Thanks to all of those putting their lives on the line for us.

  75. 75
    Erik Said:
    5:47 pm 

    anyone who wants his address, the idiot actually lists his personal contact information on his blog: http://www.michaelcrooktalks.com/

    it’s right under the picture of someone burning the flag. no, really right under the picture of the burning flag.

  76. 76
    Clay Said:
    5:05 am 

    First off, what the f**k is this Michael Crook talking about? Our military should be paid MUCH more. That way Presidents like G.W.Bush and Johnson would think twice about sending men into questionable wars because they would be a most valuable commodity to our “Government” and the cost(as it should be) would not make sense. We get these Boys and Girls and throw them into a very short training program(short meaning inexpensive) and then shove them out onto the battle fields with marginal Combat training and Cheaply Armored Vehicles. This all keeps the Monetary cost down.

    LAPD starting pay is $42,000. a year. That is a cop who is patrolling our neighborhood, not in a war zone.
    PAY THEM MORE AND OVER ARMOR THEM (protection and firepower)
    As for Hannity, I cannot stand him. Colmes is to physically weak that he just does’nt step up and make a stand up against the Meat Puppet Hannity.
    They both failed in doing their jobs as reporters. They never let this guy tell his side. It seems that it is just BULLSH*T, but you have to let him tell you his story/argument.

  77. 77
    Ian W Said:
    7:26 pm 

    This Crook character is neither left or right so I really wish everyone would just shut up about that.

    Crook is an idiot. Plain and simple.

  78. 78
    Phill Said:
    6:49 pm 

    This Jerks address is 201 E.Jefferson St. Syaracuse, N.Y. 13202 not far from Fort Drum.

  79. 79
    Phill Said:
    7:17 pm 

    I am currently serving in Iraq. I can say that I honestly don’t agree with the war we are fighting here. I do however know that I, “signed the dotted line.” I chose to serve regardles of the situation I find myself in, whether I agree or not. I am an American soldier fighting on freedom’s frontlines. I fight for the hundreds of thankful Iraqi citizens everyday. I fight for my brothers and sisters here with me in the hot sun of this strange and hostile forign land. I serve to provide for my family. I serve to protect this man’s freedom to spout filth and ignorance from his suck hole. I am not a college graduate. I am blue collar Midwest. I am a christian. I am your neighbor. I am everyman/American. This man is a waste of time. Just take comfort knowing myself and other brothers and sisters just like me are protecting you. Sleep well America and sleep well Michael Crook in warm safe freedom. Just remember, don’t bite the hand that feeds…

  80. 80
    MLR Said:
    8:07 pm 

    Please don’t give this wannabe soldier any more energy folks.

    For those that don’t know about him, he’s the moron who faked his own death on his website and tried to imply that the murder was committed by members of the United States Military.

    Let’s not encourage this creepy loser any further.

    O.K. ?

  81. 81
    Brandi Said:
    12:10 am 

    I can’t believe this guy. I hear so much crap about the military being wusses or scumbags. Maybe they should walk in the shoes of those in the military. I am married to a Navy man…now granted he isn’t in Iraq, he still has to be away from his family. All military risk their lives for us…for that guy…and he wants to say they are scumbags. Many men have died for his freedom..for all of our freedom and he wants to be an idiot and compain? How pathetic is that? He doesn’t know how hard it is for the military and their families. He needs to think about the families that have lost someone who was in the military. He needs to walk in their shoes and feel the greif and the anguish, he needs to walk in the shoes of those in Iraq and feel what it’s like to think you’re gonna die. I’m so tired of some people whining because they think we have it so easy. We have to be away from our spouses or loved ones for 6 months or more…and some of them have to sit and wonder if their loved one is still alive. He needs to think about that and keep his mouth shut. I’m sorry, it just makes me so mad.

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  83. 83
    hopefulcanadian Said:
    11:34 pm 

    Okay; look, I am a professed “Liberal”; and I don’t mean I use that LABEL that is used by republicans or the “right”; I mean literally, I’m Canadian, and we have a political party called “The Liberal Party”, and I am a member of said party. The party and our country opposed our country’s involvement in Iraq, because we did not feel it was the place for the US or whomever to conduct a regime change; we felt it was the place of the Iraqi people to do so on their own; and the liberal government in Canada never thought there were ever weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. (We do have troops in Afghanistan, to help those people with the re-building of their nation).

    THAT HAVING BEEN SAID… the last comment posted; by FORSAKE; is ABSOLUTELY uncalled for. I am someone who may agree with his stance on the Iraq war; but to actually take this sentiment out on US SOLDIERS?? That is a disgrace; those men and women, REGARDLESS as to whether we think should be there or not; are FOLLOWING ORDERS and DYING because they have been ORDERED TO GO… if ANYONE has a problem with whether they should BE THERE OR NOT; take it to your LEADERSVOTE… but DO NOT criticize those people because they decided the military was a good way to feed their families.

    If you feel it is an injustice to the Iraqi people; that they are dying without reason, don’t blame the poor men and women who’ve been ordered to point guns at them; blame the people who’ve placed them in that country, and placed those guns in their hands….

    that was a disgusting post… shame on you for minimizing their sacrifices, and for stereotyping and to actually use the word “genocide” shows how little respect you have for the actual GENOCIDES that HAVE occured in this world…. and how little you know about people that enter into the armed forces…

  84. 84
    dilligras Said:
    1:34 pm 

    Ms. Crook, or whatever his name is, is naught but the lowest form of panderer: one who will trade all his family’s honor for base notoriety and money.

    He will later advertise his own notoriety, disguised instead as popularity, pointing to his appearance on Fox News and all these comments as proof of his universal appeal and marketability.

    Do not offer him logical, reasoned arguments which point to the vile nature of his hateful misconceptions of reality….....you only further his devious designs on his own success.

    Do not click on links to his website, for each “hit” is but another sign of his planned popularity…...enhancing the sale of said site on ebay.

    Instead, let him get a real job, like everyone else…...and him sink into the anonimity he so richly deserves.

  85. 85
    crook = traitor Said:
    9:02 pm 

    this crook character is a traitor to this country and deserves to deported to a few real shitholes of the world…..i can think of a few because ive lived there… i spent 6 years in nigeria and other west african countries and when i got home to the states it was one the best blessings ive ever received. as for forsake and crook, id like to see them try and use their so called “natural rights” of freedom of speech in the war torn streets of liberia and maybe they will come to appreciate the sacrifices our brave soldiers give us for our rights as a US citizen.

  86. 86
    crook = traitor Said:
    9:04 pm 

    ps
    God bless the US and those who fight to protect her

  87. 87
    Tazman Said:
    6:18 pm 

    This Crook guy is a looser. He just wants attention and wants to stir up confrontation. He’s an instigator. He wants to throw in his BS, get everyone all upset and he probably thinks he’s funny. He looks like Tiny Tim. UGLY!!

    Anyway, I am an American citizen and proud of it. I am also proud of all the U.S. military. Past, Present and Future. We have a great country and great military. America wouldn’t be as great as “SHE” is if it weren’t for all the people fighing for yours, mine and our freedoms. Crook needs to go to Arlington and experience the horse drawn carriages with the coffins on them walking towards the final resting place for these brave soldiers. Or, he needs to go to any cemetery on Vetrans Day and see the American flags on the graves of the military and see the people in uniform visiting their comrads. Our military is unique, dedicated and powerful. They are in the military 24/7, 365 days a year and are therefore, in my opinion not by any means overpaid.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HER MILITARY

    And, would someone please deport this Crook??

  88. 88
    johnbiy Said:
    7:57 am 

    whats all this about marine adultery while deployed.
    its no secret what these military chicks are like when they are deployed away from home – there all the same, i dare say the guys are similar

    i worked in afghannistan for a while, and seriously these girls get 1 or 2 drinks inside of them and theyre anyones.

    The engaged bit is a bit much though, poor bloke, perhaps she is a nutter, but then isnt that what we want our soldiers and marines to be so that they can defend us from kids throwing stones

  89. 89
    bill Said:
    8:03 am 

    thats true – i worked in iraq for a while and, without blowing my own trumpet, bagged 9 chicks out there, all marines, all but one of them married.

    Theyre moto is what happens on deployment, stays on deployment Rightly or wrongly its there choice, and as a man, who am i to say know to a trim young fit lady laying it on a plate for me….didnt get enagaged to any of them though…wouldnt trust any f them as far as I could throw them

  90. 90
    tate Said:
    8:24 am 

    ive actually seen both a slideshow of this chick and a movie of her in action.
    entitled

    confessions of a deployed female marine

    i think one of them was part 4, so i guess theres a couple of others floating around
    my buddy said he got sent them off some chick on hotornot

  91. 91
    David Said:
    5:01 pm 

    This crook guy is an absolute loser!! He is only using this website to make money for himself, and he should be drug out in the streets and shot. Our troops are hard working and pay dearly for the sacrifices.

  92. 92
    Eric Said:
    5:03 pm 

    Many of our troops are dying day to day. I don’t entirely agree with what is going on over there, but I do have to say that we need to support our own at all costs.

  93. 93
    John Said:
    6:40 pm 

    I think the troops are doing exactly what they have been trained and told to do, and they follow the leadership given to them, it’s the commander in chief who needs to go down. He is killing them incessantly.

  94. 94
    gymnastic Said:
    5:34 am 

    http://clubs.boseinstitute.org/s1fipnqp/ boyslaurenretail

  95. 95
    FORSAKE Said:
    12:21 am 

    There is a post by “Phill” above. I will redo his post for him so that it is more fitting and accurate:

    I am currently killing in Iraq. I can say that I honestly shouldn’t be fighting here, but I need money. I do however know that I, “signed the dotted line? and that is my pathetic excuse for killing in Iraq. I chose to kill regardles of the situation I find myself in, whether it’s right or not. I am an American soldier fighting on tyranny’s frontlines. I fight for the Bush Administration. I fight for my fellow war criminals and killers here with me in the hot sun of this strange and invaded foreign land. I kill to provide for the Bush Administration. I kill to supposedly protect this man’s(Michael Crook’s) freedom to express wisdom from his intellect. I am not a college graduate(I’m in the military afterall!) I am blue collar Midwest. I am a christian. I am your neighbor. I am everyman/American. At this point you can see that I’m also a self-proud and pretentious prick. This man(Crook) is ahead of his time. Just take fear knowing myself and other genocide and war criminals just like me are actually endangering you. Sleep in fear America and sleep well Michael Crook in warm safe “freedom.” Just remember, don’t bite the hand that holds a gun, especially if you’re an innocent Iraqi villager!

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    questioned Said:
    2:09 am 

    http://www.t-mediabooks.com/wwwboard/messages/18054.html guardstightwrestling

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    crimson Said:
    8:29 am 

    http://local793.com/wwwboard/messages/72565.html complimentwhosewondered

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    scull Said:
    12:24 am 

    http://www.acnetreatment.com/wwwboard/messages/10548.html complimentwhosewondered

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    Michelle Malkin Trackbacked With:
    2:07 pm 

    UNHINGED SCUMBAG OF THE YEAR

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